# Getting the 80-meter Loop Back in Shape

After I got the antenna back up, I measured the angles and computed the lengths of the sides. Ideally, it would be a square.

Hey—after lots of motorcycle posts, here’s one on ham radio.

Argh! I have an 80-meter full-wavelength horizontal loop antenna and it came down in some recent winds. It’s fed atop my roof on a short mast, which also holds up a 2-meter-and-up discone. I feed the loop with ladder line and use an antenna tuner.

Well, I can’t claim to be the best antenna technician. I just threw some chunks of wood over trees using white nylon parachute cord and yanked the corners of the antenna up that way. The constant chafing of one of the trees on the cord finally frazzled the cord into nothing, and down it came.

So, I rejiggered the corner insulator locations and got it up again (more chunks of firewood over trees). Just for kicks, I thought I’d do some measurements to see how close to a square I came. The answer is a lot closer than I expected. I used a nifty tool at mathopenref.com to create a drawing with the angles right, then got out my ruler and calculator to figure the side lengths. All around, not too bad, considering what I have to work with as far as antenna mounting points.

The whole thing slopes down to the east, so I suppose that affects the radiation pattern. I originally put it up for NVIS local communications, and it works well for that when conditions are good, but it also works on all bands with a tuner. It’s been my main HF antenna for some time now, and it looks like it will continue in that capacity.

I really do wish I had some real poles for the corners. I’d love to create a 160-meter full-wavelength loop. I have a acre here, so it would fit if I had something to hold it up.

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### 6 Responses to Getting the 80-meter Loop Back in Shape

1. dcasler says:

2. Dave says:

“… but it also works on all bands with a tuner.”
Dave, I’ve been reading a bit about tuners and they have been telling me that tuners do not tune the antenna, only the feedline between the antenna and the radio. Is that what you are saying here too?
Thanks,
Dave (also)

3. Andrew says:

this is what you want

https://www.unistrutohio.com/perforated-square-tubing-2?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIsqjaga7d5AIVxB6tBh0INA-YEAQYBSABEgLNxPD_BwE

sections telescope within each other
three 12 feet sections make 30 feet tall mast (2 feet overlap recommend at junctions)
if you get the 12 footers it’s easy to raise/extend them one by one while standing on 8 foot ladder. (bury largest outside peace 4 feet deep in concete or just bury a shorter sleeve piece just larger than largest full piece you get)

very inexpensive, convenient and indestructible 30 feet 40 feet or even 50 feet no guy wires

4. Dave says:

Hi Charlie, sounds like quite a project. If, after you get it up, you aren’t satisfied, contact a local club. There’s undoubtedly a local ham or two who can come over to your place and look at things. Getting an antenna the way you want it involves lots of experimentation. 73

5. charlie says:

hi dave,
I am attempting to build my first hf antenna. I have built a 9:1 balun, and have about 40′ of yard to work with. was thinking of running a 12 ga. wire about 34′ then adding a 127 turned 16 ga. wire around an 1.25” pvc pipe to make a coil to add for 80 meters and a 6′ wire or so to make the 40 ‘ I have. was going to put this about 30’ in the air. if so maybe could make it into an inverted “L” ? do you think this project could work?

thank you ,
Charlie
kc2sto

6. Sal says:

Dave,
I am in the process of building my own HF antenna. I too chose to use fence top rail. However, I wanted something sturdier so I could go higher. Home Depot carries only 10 ft sections and Lowe’s carries some 20 footers. The price for heavy gauge 20 footers was around 90 dollars. I located a fencing supply company and found 2″ diameter 20 footers for \$36! These don’t have sweged ends so they use a ‘sleeve’. I plan to use self-tapping screws to lock down the joints. Check out your local chain link fence supply company.
Sal
73
KD0UBE.

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